“In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit [to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery in 2018, burial place of many American dead from the First World War], Trump said, ‘Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.’ In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as ‘suckers’ for getting killed.”[1]
Soon thereafter, “one unnamed senior official with the U.S. Department of Defense and one senior U.S. Marine Corps officer confirmed the 2018 cemetery remarks from the above report in interviews with The Associated Press (AP). According to the AP, the official had firsthand knowledge of Trump’s remarks, and the officer had been told about them.”[2]
Donald Trump, National Security Adviser John Bolton, and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo all denied that Trump had said these things. Bolton was not then and has never become a Trump loyalist.
In “a separate incident of Trump visiting the grave of [General John] Kelly’s son who was killed in action in Afghanistan, ….. Trump allegedly asked of military personnel who volunteered to join the service, ‘What was in it for them?’”
In an October 2023 speech, President Joe Biden referred explicitly to the reported remarks. Immediately afterward, General John Kelly, who had been serving as Trump’s chief of staff, endorsed the original report.
The Snopes evaluation concluded: “In sum, the claim stemmed from a story by The Atlantic, which relied on anonymous, second-hand reports of Trump’s alleged words; there was no independent footage or documented proof to substantiate the in-question comments; and Trump vehemently denies that he once called service members “losers” and “suckers.” While it was certainly possible that he said those things, Snopes was unable to independently verify the claim.” Nevertheless, those stories were widely reported by media outlets.[3]
Personally, I believe them. So, what to make of the following?
First, the military faces a recruitment “crisis.”[4]
Second, based on November 2024 exit-polls for presidential candidates.[5]
Trump Biden/Harris Percent of the overall vote.
Veterans 65% 34% 13%
Non-Veterans 48% 50% 87%
In the wake of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and related anti-Islamist raiding elsewhere, do veterans now think that Trump got it right? Do they think that they have been betrayed by the country they volunteered to defend? Did they put Trump in the White House?
[1] Jeffrey Goldberg, “Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’,” The Atlantic, 3 September 2020. The accusations and denials are examined in Did Trump Call Fallen Soldiers ‘Suckers’ and ‘Losers’? | Snopes.com
[2] Report: Trump disparaged US war dead as ‘losers,’ ‘suckers’ | AP News
[3] For example, see: Trump disparaged U.S. military casualties as ‘losers,’ ‘suckers,’ report says | PBS News; Did Trump call US war dead “losers” and “suckers”? | Vox.
[4] The Military Recruiting Outlook Is Grim Indeed. Loss of Public Confidence, Political Attacks and the Economy Are All Taking a Toll. | Military.com makes interesting reading.